Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby defcon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:22 am

ergot wrote:Average IQ Scores:
Asian ... 110
White ... 100-105
Hispanic ... 90
Black ... 85

Dozens of studies have come up with more or less these same stats. Regardless of the way that people are tested and under what circumstances they are tested, these numbers (approximately) are what you get. The scary thing is that some genetic groups have been found that have average IQs of about 65. When you think honestly and rationally about these numbers, they completely undermine the myth of racism. I know the point has been made elsewhere, but it's worth repeating. No one should be made to feel guilty about having a higher than average IQ and if you have a higher than average IQ you should trust your ability to think through the issues and to recognize that racism is not the issue. It's genetically determined intelligence that makes all the difference. Racism is a rather superficial phenomenon which has very little effect on socioeconomic status. Stupid people tend to cause most of their own problems....
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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby surfsteve » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:00 am

Seems like these IQ stats are more likely to be a result of culture rather than heredity. Asian cultures are shamed upon when they produce bad test scores while many blacks are on the news promoting intelligence as a form of racism while their role models promote drug use and violence through music with little to no educational encouragement. Many Hispanics, instead of fixing their own country are taught that all they need to do is get to America and they will be provided a living which is some how owed to them. This is also promised to them by our corrupt politicians and corporation leaders who are somehow convinced doing so is the way to power and wealth. It seems as though these kind of people measure their success against how bad others around them are doing rather than how well they are off and how much good they've done in the world.
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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby Sparky of SoCal » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:56 am

surfsteve wrote:Seems like these IQ stats are more likely to be a result of culture rather than heredity. Asian cultures are shamed upon when they produce bad test scores while many blacks are on the news promoting intelligence as a form of racism while their role models promote drug use and violence through music with little to no educational encouragement. Many Hispanics, instead of fixing their own country are taught that all they need to do is get to America and they will be provided a living which is some how owed to them. This is also promised to them by our corrupt politicians and corporation leaders who are somehow convinced doing so is the way to power and wealth. It seems as though these kind of people measure their success against how bad others around them are doing rather than how well they are off and how much good they've done in the world.


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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby defcon » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:34 am

Studies have been done looking at this issue from every conceivable angle. The "culture" hypothesis was ruled out long, long ago. As a quick example, many studies have shown that black children adopted by affluent white families showed only very slight gains compared to other black children. Something like two to three IQ points. These are longitudinal studies involving hundreds of individuals. The genetics hypothesis is corroborated by all but the most blatantly agenda-driven studies. The "culture" hypothesis is contraindicated in the majority of studies. All that being said, libtards deny the science and keep arguing "culture" and the news media, being the politically correct entity that it is, also pushes that narrative. People who haven't done their homework tend to believe whatever the news media tells them. Once you realize that these differences are genetically based all supports for the "racism" narrative vanish. Of course, libtards will argue that believing in racial differences is racist, but facts are facts. Sorry. The odd thing is that libtards believe in global warming despite the paucity of evidence, while they run away in panic when confronted with the evidence for the genetic basis for intelligence. Face the facts and it's a lot easier to comprehend the complex and dysfunctional reality which is the good ole USA.
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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby mrgreen » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Does degenerate culture cause low IQ or is it the other way around? I think the answer is obvious. A complex society cannot be maintained by people with low IQ. It will fall apart over time. Even when gifted with an ideal situation, those with low IQ will allow things to fall apart over a period of years. On the other hand, even when in a miserably bad situation, those with high IQ will gradually rise above it and over time advance. History shows us this over and over. Test scores demonstrate this over and over. It takes active effort to deny what all data points clearly demonstrate. We do not owe those with low IQ anything and it's time that we refuse to feel guilty about what they do to themselves. People with low IQ are good at blaming others for their problems. We've got to be even better at not accepting blame for what we did not cause.
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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby surfsteve » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:24 am

defcon wrote:Studies have been done looking at this issue from every conceivable angle. The "culture" hypothesis was ruled out long, long ago. As a quick example, many studies have shown that black children adopted by affluent white families showed only very slight gains compared to other black children. Something like two to three IQ points. These are longitudinal studies involving hundreds of individuals. The genetics hypothesis is corroborated by all but the most blatantly agenda-driven studies. The "culture" hypothesis is contraindicated in the majority of studies. All that being said, libtards deny the science and keep arguing "culture" and the news media, being the politically correct entity that it is, also pushes that narrative. People who haven't done their homework tend to believe whatever the news media tells them. Once you realize that these differences are genetically based all supports for the "racism" narrative vanish. Of course, libtards will argue that believing in racial differences is racist, but facts are facts. Sorry. The odd thing is that libtards believe in global warming despite the paucity of evidence, while they run away in panic when confronted with the evidence for the genetic basis for intelligence. Face the facts and it's a lot easier to comprehend the complex and dysfunctional reality which is the good ole USA.

Adopting children of a different race does not mean they will identify as that race. I think the cultural aspect is far from being ruled out. I could accept that I am wrong and that heredity has more to do with it than culture but not that it has been ruled out, implying it has no effect when it obviously does.
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Re: Smart Privilege and All Lives Splatter

Postby defcon » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:21 pm

surfsteve wrote:
defcon wrote:Studies have been done looking at this issue from every conceivable angle. The "culture" hypothesis was ruled out long, long ago. As a quick example, many studies have shown that black children adopted by affluent white families showed only very slight gains compared to other black children. Something like two to three IQ points. These are longitudinal studies involving hundreds of individuals. The genetics hypothesis is corroborated by all but the most blatantly agenda-driven studies. The "culture" hypothesis is contraindicated in the majority of studies. All that being said, libtards deny the science and keep arguing "culture" and the news media, being the politically correct entity that it is, also pushes that narrative. People who haven't done their homework tend to believe whatever the news media tells them. Once you realize that these differences are genetically based all supports for the "racism" narrative vanish. Of course, libtards will argue that believing in racial differences is racist, but facts are facts. Sorry. The odd thing is that libtards believe in global warming despite the paucity of evidence, while they run away in panic when confronted with the evidence for the genetic basis for intelligence. Face the facts and it's a lot easier to comprehend the complex and dysfunctional reality which is the good ole USA.

Adopting children of a different race does not mean they will identify as that race. I think the cultural aspect is far from being ruled out. I could accept that I am wrong and that heredity has more to do with it than culture but not that it has been ruled out, implying it has no effect when it obviously does.

In the example I provided there was a two to three point IQ gain as a result of being transplanted into a different environment. The average deficit to begin with is fifteen points. So somewhere up to twenty percent was gained due to "culture" or environment. That would imply that at least eighty percent of intelligence is due to genetic factors. The argument can become muddled if we start listing off environmental factors such as physical injury or poisoning that can damage the brain. So, although "culture" has an impact, it is negligible compared with genetics. There are those who try to claim the opposite even though we've known for quite some time that genetics matters most and that's what I'm asserting when I say that the "culture" hypothesis was ruled out long, long ago.
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