Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby drdesert » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:16 pm

desertrat wrote:FBI asks for public's help after deadly massacres
The warning signs might be there, but the warning signs are so non-specific as to be entirely useless. Monday morning quarterbacking at it's worst is displayed in this pathetic news clip. Here are the supposed warning signs listed:
ABCNEWS wrote:1) Making angry or racist statements
2) Referring to past attackers
3) Using suicidal language
4) Subtle change in work performance
5) Someone who is bullied or isolated
6) An interest in fire arms
7) May make posts relevant to the above on social media

The problem here is that 95% percent of those who display all these warning signs will never commit a crime and 99% of them would never attempt a mass shooting. It may be that all people who display these signs deserve to have their complaints addressed and their stress reduced, but making them the focus of unwarranted scrutiny is not the right thing to do. In any case, bad social policy is at the root of the problem and a multi-cultural society makes it almost impossible to create social policy that works for everyone. We need to put a moratorium on immigration, eliminate ten million illegal immigrants, focus on the welfare of citizens, and undo many of the libtard policies that have been put in place over the course of the last half century. The melting pot has become a pressure cooker and the results are obvious.

Useless is right! :laugh:
Maybe one out of twenty people will display four out of seven of those warning signs and maybe one out of one hundred all seven. Even out of those displaying all the warning signs, the chances that they will act out in any way is so remote as to be ridiculous! Although the warning signs may be useless, your suggestions on how to turn the pressure down in the pressure cooker are exactly what is needed to fix the problem. Not that being right makes a bit of difference in this screwed up world!
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby drdesert » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:19 pm

pcslim wrote:The IQ Crisis Has Resulted In An Increasingly Dysfunctional Society
As our society has become increasingly multi-cultural, it has also become increasingly dysfunctional. Closely paralleling this trend has been a consistent drop in average IQ as a result of social policies initiated in the 1960s:
The Bell Curve (Herrnstein and Murray) wrote:Mounting evidence indicates that demographic trends are exerting downward pressure on the distribution of cognitive ability in the USA and that the pressures are strong enough to have social consequences. The professional consensus is that the USA has experienced dysgenic pressures throughout most of the past century.

This is incredibly important because:
The Bell Curve (Herrnstein and Murray) wrote:As IQs drop the following things increase: poverty, single mothers, incarceration rates, high school drop out rates, etc.

The white guilt phenomenon has allowed this trend to go unchecked. We still see this phenomenon exerting a huge amount of influence on what Herrnstein and Murray refer to as the cognitive elites. The most politically correct institutions currently are universities, media companies, and tech giants such as Google/YouTube and Facebook.
The Bell Curve (Herrnstein and Murray) wrote:Since the 1960s this long-standing discomfort among white elites has taken on the character of a sensitivity so acute that it resembles a disorder.

The problem with this situation is that it's very much like a balloon about to burst:
The Bell Curve (Herrnstein and Murray) wrote:Racism will reemerge in a new and more virulent form. The tension between what the white elite is supposed to think and what it is actually thinking about race will reach something close to a breaking point. This pessimistic prognosis must be contemplated: When the break comes, the result, as so often happens when cognitive dissonance is resolved, will be an overreaction in the other direction.

Currently we see individuals being pushed to their breaking points in various ways. It's not actually fair to characterize their reaction as racism. It's more accurate to suggest that these individuals are reacting to an increasingly dysfunctional society. They correctly understand that multi-culturalism has something to do with the problem, but most likely do not realize that IQs have consistently dropped off since the 1960s due to dysgenic forces (aka, the welfare state). On top of that recent immigrants have on average had substantially below average IQs. This has resulted in an ever increasing portion of the population having below average IQs and this not only results in higher crime rate and drop out rates, but it also means that many of those entering the work force are incompetent and only have a minimal capacity to be trained to a point where they can competently perform their jobs. In a word, we're screwed! And all this has created the pressure cooker situation that desertrat mentioned.

BTW, The Bell Curve was published in the 1990s. It has been viciously attacked by SJW types, but it has increased in popularity over the years because the facts that it presents are irrefutable. Any intellectually honest person would recognize the truth presented in the book. It's a long read, but it's an amazing read. However, don't blame the messenger. It's the message that policy makers need to be aware of.

You'll never hear such a straight forward and accurate analysis as this on any media news show and unless we are able to discuss the roots of the problem, there is no way that we will solve the problem. Thank you for getting straight to the root of the problem! If only the idiots in charge could honestly and openly deal with the problem as honestly and openly as you diagnosed the problem.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby surfsteve » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:59 pm

Three mass shootings since the democrats embarrassment from the Muller testimony? I think there is a connection.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby a2z » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:17 pm

4chan Reveals the El Paso Walmart McLovin Madman's Manifesto
This video appears on BitChute instead of YouTube since YouTube is censoring discussion of the El Paso shooter's manifesto. This guy provides pretty good commentary and doesn't go down the usual paths that the corporate news media habitually takes.
LINK: https://www.bitchute.com/video/yN0cD2cpiz0/
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby mrfish » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:16 am

The corporate media news treats the public like children who are incapable of thinking for themselves. Then again, if this talk of an "IQ Crisis" is correct, then a significant portion of the public has the mental capacity of children and they're stuck there for life. So, maybe there is good reason for treating the public like children. We've devolved in so many ways and declining IQ explains a lot and the explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot libtards!
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby cactuspete » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:43 am

Democrats blame Trump in the wake of mass shooting in El Paso
This is a reasonably good discussion of mass shootings in general. I think it's important to keep in mind that although we hear about mass shootings more and more often, the overall crime rate is the lowest it's been in decades. As for the motive of shooters, this video makes a number of assertions which I think are erroneous. My feeling is that shooters are driven by anger and ideology more than anything else. It's a feedback loop where anger and possibly other stressors in the person's environment wear a person down over time making the person even angrier to the point where the person no longer thinks straight and resorts to something crazy like a mass shooting. As a society we can do things to reduce the stressors and reverse the downward spiral which leads to mass shootings. However, often taking the stress off one person just leads to a redistribution of stress with someone else being forced to bear the burden. A fair society is the ideal, but not easy to achieve since everyone seems to have a different idea about what constitutes fairness in any given situation. To some extent this leads us back to a discussion of an overly diverse society and puts the blame on multiculturalism and underscores the need to put an end to this pressure cooker situation and return to a gently simmering melting pot.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby MojaveMike » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:41 am

America's Mass Shooting Nightmare
Extremism is a problem whether it's on the left or the right. As for me, I'm a middle of the road kind of guy. Enforce existing laws. Treat people as individuals. And don't get fooled by big media companies.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby shadylady » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:57 am

Extremism is not the root cause of mass shootings. The root cause is a feeling of hopelessness. Obviously different individuals perceive things differently and holding extremist views makes one hypersensitive to certain issues. Also extremists (almost by definition) hold views that the majority of people don't hold. As a result extremists find themselves in a situation where they feel that they must wake up the masses in order to bring about needed social change. However, individuals who don't adhere to extremist views can wind up becoming mass shooters as a result of circumstances just as easily. Someone who is bullied at work, unfairly reprimanded, or passed over several times for a promotion may come to view their situation as hopeless. A guy who experienced an especially difficult divorce, who can't see his children, and who must pay over half his salary to his wife, might view his situation as hopeless. Someone stuck with an inconsiderate and noisy neighbor can also be pushed into that mindset. Other stressors such as illness, lack of sleep, or just general stress can also contribute to feelings of hopelessness.

Notice that I don't use the term HELPLESSNESS because these people do not feel helpless since ultimately they decide to do something about their situation. They just come to the conclusion that the situation is hopeless. Sometimes people get to this point through no fault of their own. Other times they contribute to the problem and fail to realize what they've done to make things worse. In any case, they target innocent people because soft targets allow for a larger body count than hard targets. That would seem obvious, but you never hear anyone acknowledge that.

What can be done? First of all, open dialog on major social issues is necessary. Reasonable rhetoric is also needed. Above all don't deny the existence of a real problem. This includes not making up fake problems in order to distract from real problems. It's the elephant in the room that no one acknowledges the existence of which infuriates people prone towards extremely anti-social acts. Further, law enforcement must protect the rights of people being mistreated by neighbors. Employers must be held to a high standard when it comes to fair treatment of employees. It's difficult to be perfectly fair and perfectly reasonable, but to allow blatant unfairness to persist is a recipe for disaster.

The problem of extreme multiculturalism must also be acknowledged. When incompatible people are forced to interact and live together, conflict is inevitable. When hard working people are forced to pay for the care of people who come to the country uninvited, there is bound to be a problem there. When considerate people are forced to endure the behavior of inconsiderate people without efficient and swift legal recourse, there's another obvious issue. When employers blatantly treat employees in an unfair manner, it's impossible to deny that there's a problem there. The IQ crisis also plays an important role here. Just think of what it must be like to be a child with a low IQ who is being held to standards established many years ago while average IQs were considerably higher. Or put yourselves in the shoes of a teacher expected to bring these low IQ children up to those same standards. Impossible situations cause frustration and feelings of hopelessness. And then after all that, you still have tons of low IQ people who feel that they deserve jobs they aren't qualified for and scream discrimination when they don't get them as a result of unreasonable perceptions fostered by SJW types who are out of touch with reality.

The problems and issues go on and on and on, but In any case, some people are bound to act out as the result of their reasonable or unreasonable frustrations. We as a society can do better when it comes to preventing these issues. Gun control is pointless. Even blaming extremists is pointless. Mass shootings are a symptom of a dysfunctional society and no quick band-aid fix is going to do any good. It's a systemic problem and it must be dealt with as such.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby drdesert » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:26 am

Criminalizing Mental Illness
It's a complicated issue, but our government almost seems to want to use these events to justify restrictions of personal liberties. shadylady is correct that it's a complicated problem, but it's more than just complicated. There's a level of corruption involved also.
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Re: Mass Shootings - Blame It On The Books!

Postby sandman » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:06 am

Red Flag Laws are a Red Flag
Making laws in reaction to an event is stupid. We've wound up with a ton of stupid policy as a result of knee jerk reactions to specific events.
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