Ben Shapiro is WRONG about Tommy Robinson
According to Judge Heather Norton, "this is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness. It is about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, it's about being innocent until proven guilty. It is about preserving the integrity of the jury to continue without people being intimidated or being affected by irresponsible and inaccurate 'reporting', if that's what it was".
wildrose wrote:Freedom of Expression: There is an existing thread called Freedom of Expression. I'll confer with cactuspete about whether these posts should be moved to that thread. I don't see this issue gaining much traction. It has limited interest from what I can tell and I don't see this story having much of a shelf life either.
ergot wrote:What's the real difference between freedom of expression and freedom of speech or freedom of the press for that matter? And wasn't this Robinson thing in England anyways? I got this from Wikipedia:According to Judge Heather Norton, "this is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness. It is about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, it's about being innocent until proven guilty. It is about preserving the integrity of the jury to continue without people being intimidated or being affected by irresponsible and inaccurate 'reporting', if that's what it was".
Sounds like Robinson was violating the rights of the accused to me. I'm always irritated when the press posts pictures of people accused of crimes. People should have a right to privacy until they are actually convicted.
surfsteve wrote:wildrose wrote:Freedom of Expression: There is an existing thread called Freedom of Expression. I'll confer with cactuspete about whether these posts should be moved to that thread. I don't see this issue gaining much traction. It has limited interest from what I can tell and I don't see this story having much of a shelf life either.
Didn't you also see Trump as a buffoon who didn't stand a chance of going anywhere?
As children, we are told that the law is objective, fair and moral. As we grow up, though, it becomes increasingly impossible to avoid the feeling that the actual law has little to do with the Platonic stories we were told as children. We begin to suspect that the law may in fact – or at least at times – be a coercive mechanism designed to protect the powerful, appease the aggressive, and bully the vulnerable.
The arrest of Tommy Robinson is a hammer-blow to the fragile base of people’s respect for British law. The reality that he could be grabbed off the street and thrown into a dangerous jail – in a matter of hours – is deeply shocking.
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